Comments on: 2nd thing to do after installing Fedora

By: mr no

mr no — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:19:29 +0000

there is a good reason why the icon is not on the panel. I don’t want my clients clicking on it and than calling me to ask: “there is a big black hole on my desktop. what should I do?”..

By: Herward Hoyer

Herward Hoyer — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:01 +0000

For me it’s a “Yes please!” But I don’t mind if I have to do it by myself. So when nongeeks get confused by the terminal just left it at it’s place.
Btw. eveything (except for server tasks) should be possible without the terminal.

By: Paul W. Frields

Paul W. Frields — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:00:59 +0000

@ignacio: That smells like the right answer to me. (I do much the same thing.) Any time a “productivity desktop user” has to open a terminal, somewhere there’s been a bug. For people who like digging into the guts, hitting a keystroke is faster than switching to the mouse to do things. Fortunately it’s so easy to customize panels that everyone can have it their way!

By: anonymous

anonymous — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:15:59 +0000

you’re not the fedora desktop’s target user, apparently.

By: nicu

nicu — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:02:20 +0000

I am also in the camp installing nautilus-open-terminal as soon as possible.

By: bochecha

bochecha — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:32:05 +0000

I don’t add a terminal icon in this panel, in fact, I actually remove the two other ones.

Mouse clicking shortcuts are bad. The applications are already present in the menus, there’s no need to invade your interface with a lot more of them. Why don’tyou also add an icon for OOo calc and wroter that you use a lot ? And also one for Gimp ? And one for each and every software you use regularly ? Oh god, you just recreated a second menu in your panel…

If you want to go fast when launching an application, drop the mouse and use ALT + F2 ;)

By: David Nielsen

David Nielsen — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:37:21 +0000

absolutely no, leading by example we should try to improve the experience for the user. Putting a default icon to the terminal would imply a failing on our part in having them be required to learn it’s ways instead of using easy, translatable and accessible GUI apps.

Now I use the terminal a great deal, mainly because I do packaging, I wish I had better integrate tools to do my work and frankly I would love to see less of the terminal than I do, not more. I find I am more productive in environments that has been designed to my use cases rather than hitting it with the bash+vim hammer.

So no.. no no no.. if you give my mother the impression that she needs to learn this arcanic relic of a tool to use Linux by elevating it to her default desktop experience she will run away from Linux all together. Many users will do so.

A default should apply to the greatest common benefactor, you or I are not always the greatest examples of such a target.

By: Victor Bogado da Silva Lins

Victor Bogado da Silva Lins — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:55:00 +0000

I don’t think it should be there, I also do it every time I get a new home dir, or for some reason I get my gnome confs destroyed by me. I usually use a separated partition for home and never ever format or erase the configuration in my home.

I don’t think it is a good idea, a icon on the bar, by default, is inviting people to click it and “normal” users have a bad feeling about command line interface, I don’t think it sends the right message, sure we geeks and hackers all love the good old command prompt, but there is no intrinsic need for it anymore, a default icon might imply that sooner or later he will need to use this “dos” to use linux.

By: Leif

Leif — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:43:19 +0000

I install nautilus-open-terminal immediately after an install. i don’t understand why it is not installed by default.

By: Marco Crosio

Marco Crosio — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:42:23 +0000

+1 for me, too :)